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Sept. 19th HPDE Cameron Airport
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post Aug 20 2009, 07:01 PM
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In adddition to synchronized dancing in the corners, what layout is planned for September??


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post Aug 20 2009, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (Ltapx @ Aug 20 2009, 08:01 PM) *
In adddition to synchronized dancing in the corners, what layout is planned for September??

Late to apex , it will have cones ,turns ,and more turns, chicane and hairpin,and straight areas and I believe the BOARD will decide on September 3 . What ever will be I hope the Eggplant be ready . I still l have painful withdrawals. I am even using the tt for daily driver ....and AC is pretty good Ed do u have any layout on mente. . I did like the 2 hairpins .
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post Aug 20 2009, 07:42 PM
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Let's see, I would like to see a decreasing radius off-camber downhill corner, a sweeper with a narrow kink at the end with a blind connected turn, and an uphill hairpin. Wait, I'm still thinking about HHR.

Whatever setup - as long it has some technical aspects within the constraints of Cameron....


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post Aug 20 2009, 08:16 PM
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I agree with Carreras, lets do the dual hairpins! SHABLON_padonak_02.gif


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post Aug 21 2009, 09:17 AM
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I also would like both hairpins, but with the 2x2 thing all corners need to be sweepers, boring. whistle3.gif


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post Aug 21 2009, 09:22 AM
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OH...LET'S NOT START THAT ONE AGAIN. pioneer_smoke.gif


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post Aug 21 2009, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (SpyderGuy @ Aug 21 2009, 10:17 AM) *
I also would like both hairpins, but with the 2x2 thing all corners need to be sweepers, boring. whistle3.gif

You can only do 2x2 where it can be done corner one , the long chicane . if only one hairpin then at the start finish then there .don't need to change any thing on the track except lesssssss cones.
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post Aug 23 2009, 10:25 AM
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Less cones is always good. Is the two hairpin setup the event we ran in which you take a right at the start/stop?
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post Aug 23 2009, 10:38 AM
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WYD,

Will the "Three's" bigger badder brother red beast be on display at the Sept. event??


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post Aug 23 2009, 04:44 PM
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"Will the "Three's" bigger badder brother red beast be on display at the Sept. event??"


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post Aug 23 2009, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (whosyourdaddy @ Aug 21 2009, 04:29 PM) *
You can only do 2x2 where it can be done corner one , the long chicane . if only one hairpin then at the start finish then there .don't need to change any thing on the track except lesssssss cones.



I agree, consider the option of passing in a corner on turn one and on the back sweeper. Keep the two hairpins to practice braking zone, turn-in, apex points, track-out and trail braking where appropriate.


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post Aug 23 2009, 07:52 PM
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The eggplant should be ready to go and I have plenty of tires to run.There is no red chile pepper Bassam , Ed ,Rene ,Enrique and Dr K will know when or for the July meeting will be ready for show . All I can say is that I got a fix with a Cayman and I was really impressed how it handles on the turns, a big plus for the fun to drive .Bossolo should drive one .I did drive his Boxter and by far the cayman felt a lot better.
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post Aug 23 2009, 08:14 PM
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I've driven Ayala's Cayman S and was not too impressed. Great neutral handling, great engine sound, but lacking in power.
Porsche purposely keeps their mid-engined cars way low on power compared to the 911 variants. Otherwise, nobody would buy them!
The perfect track car would be a lightweight Cayman with a 3.8 normally aspirated engine, like the RS.


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post Aug 23 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (handdoc @ Aug 23 2009, 09:14 PM) *
I've driven Ayala's Cayman S and was not too impressed. Great neutral handling, great engine sound, but lacking in power.
Porsche purposely keeps their mid-engined cars way low on power compared to the 911 variants. Otherwise, nobody would buy them!
The perfect track car would be a lightweight Cayman with a 3.8 normally aspirated engine, like the RS.

This is a 08 yes the power is not to compare but poud per poud you can carry more momentum than a 911 and you know $$$$ can add more power better handling ,and the car can go on diet
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post Aug 23 2009, 09:16 PM
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Talking about the Cayman S. This brings up the topic of whether one focuses on a momentum car with low hp, a momentum car with moderate hp, a front or rear biased car with moderate hp, a front or rear biased car with high hp, etc.... Whichever the car, one eventually has to adapt your driving line for the entire course layout based to some extent on your vehicle of choice.

WYD, there must be someone in the RGV you know with a Cayman S that might be interested in attending a DE event at Cameron and needs instructing....

I remember instructing the cowboy chick in the Lotus and that was a great neutral handling car and the weight to power ratio is what you notice right away. Seems to me that a neutral handling car like the Cayman S with the fair amount of power is just the ticket to be aggressive in the turns and have some ooomph for the straights. Especially, when using treadwear in the 100-200 range....

These are cars that need not be tiptoed on the turns like a Z06 or a Viper which to some extent can sacrifice corner entry line and thus some corner speed but make up for it in the straights. But darn if that torque is not addictive....

Anyway, I suppose in the end we identify our respective cars natural tendencies and make up for limitations through grippier rubber, power adders, adjustable swaybars, coilovers, brakes, seats that keep us anchored, weight reduction, downforce additions, aggressive camber/suspension settings, personal heat radiators, etc...

In the infamous words of El Laredoense - No Pasa A Nadie, have fun with what ya got....


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post Aug 24 2009, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (Ltapx @ Aug 23 2009, 10:16 PM) *
These are cars that need not be tiptoed on the turns like a Z06 or a Viper which to some extent can sacrifice corner entry line and thus some corner speed


I've almost bought an NA Lotus Elise back then instead of the Impreza due to that very reason. The idea of having a car that loses on the straights, but can catch up due to other cars losing ground on the corners is very appealing to me.

Speaking of low hp, lightweight car, I can't wait until Toyota and Subaru unveil their joint-effort sports car (086A) at Tokyo Motor Show later this year. If they bring out the rear-wheel drive version here in U.S., I'm highly considering buying one. dance4.gif
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post Aug 25 2009, 07:47 PM
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Bunta I sat on the Elise , driven Sk and are good cars but dam the shifting the balance and the fun factor really impressed me with the Caymans 295 HP and there is no lsd on this car.
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post Aug 26 2009, 07:29 AM
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Yeah i heard they did it on purpose because with a lil more omph and an lsd it would come close to the 911 but for quite a bit less... when top gear tested it i found it funny when they were trying to do a power slide and only the inside tire was spinning lol.gif

any way will try to make the SEPT meeting. to discuss BBQ.. happy.gif


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post Aug 26 2009, 08:33 AM
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since the Cayman has a G50 gearbox, I'm sure you can put a Guard's TB diff, doesn't Farnbacher Loles do a Cayman upgrade, diff, suspension and turbo? Shouldn't be too hard to make it faster than an out of the box 911.Hopefully I'll have mine back together by the 19th.


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post Aug 26 2009, 09:26 AM
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There was a guy at one of the CBRPCA Harris Hill events who had added an LSD to his Cayman. I talked to him at either the November or March event, can't recall which. He said something along the lines of it being the perfect track car after the addition...no surprise there.





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